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Hi all,

Next weekend (Easter weekend) I'll be at Eastercon, which is the British national science-fiction convention. It's at a hotel near the NEC.

http://www.illustrious.org.uk/

If you're...

That's also my understanding. The vast bulk of a council's income comes not from council tax, but in the form of a grant from the government, and that is based (I believe) largely on the number of...

Hi all,

I'm attending a games convention in Edinburgh next (not this) weekend, and the organisers have decided to do a vegan gamer/geek meetup with me as the host! You don't have to be a member of...

Hi all,

I posted about this a couple of days ago in the main forum, but it was moved to a sub-forum, which is fair enough because I guess as a UK thing it isn't really relevent to everyone else....

Hi all,

Some friends of mine are doing a sponsored event to raise money for Animals Count, a UK political party for animals that is standing in the European Elections in June.

In less than two...

I'm guessing that they either didn't, or couldn't, buy out the on-site catering contact.

I once went to a London Vegans talk given by one of the organisers of the London Vegan festival, at...

Well at the risk of promoting myself (but you did ask):

http://thethingsmeateaterssay.blogspot.com/

Should be the first of many... :)

The Handmade flapjacks didn't have the logo on there. Just a think saying "Suitable for vegans and vegetarians". So it isn't a cost issue.



To be honest, given that they're packed full of sugar...

The Handmade Flapjack company have been marking those items in their range that are suitable for vegans as "Suitable for Vegetarians and Vegans" since the early nineties.

They really were...

Well I'm not a lawyer, but the fact that there is not a legal definition is not in itself a let out - it just means that the court would rule using common sense and a dictionary.

Example: If you...

I had a search. I think the petition is asking for something which already, possibly exists.

If you look at this:

http://www.food.gov.uk/multimedia/pdfs/vegitermsgn.pdf

...you see:

Personally, I'd rather start with an intemediate step, which would be to ammend the labelling legislation to force all packaged food, and perhaps restaurant menu items, to state whether or not food...

True. But on the other hand it could be used by those who oppose us to both ridicule us...

"Now these militant veggies are saying that a law should be passed to force restaurants to provide veggie...

This might sound really nit-picky, but I think that petition is very badly worded:



I first came across that in an email a moment before reading your post, and I interpreted it then (after a...

No problem! :)

Yes, I do appreciate it's probably obvious, but I'm afraid it was a bit of a "light bulb" moment for me. :)

I've just re-read the email from Sainsburys, and there was another interesting section:...

I got an emailed reply to the questions I asked on the Sainsburys forums. The interesting bit was this statement:



Now at the time, that confused the hell out of me, because when I clicked on...

And it turns out that the person who just told me off for asking questions about vegan food in the vegan forum isn't even a vegetarian. He/she has made 36 posts since last May, but this is the first...

Yeah... but it would be a response they could deny ever making if it turned out to be untrue. I want an "on the record" answer. (Also, they seem to just send the same pat email response out and...

My last three posts to the Vegan Labelling thread on the Sainsburys forum, posted on the 24th, 25th and today.

And another post (replying to one replying to my earlier post):

My latest post on the Sainsburys forums:

Exactly. Has anyone asked them if "obvious" products are not labelled as suitable for vegetarians either?

Personally, I agree.

But they are saying that the only reason an apparently vegan product (i.e. one whose ingredient list contains only vegan ingredients) might be labelled as vegetarian only is...

That is, according to their Customer Care line, a lie.

As I think I mentioned in a previous email, the vegetable samosas and pilau rice are both still suitable for vegans, despite only saying...

Interesting. So the person on their Customer Careline was lying when they told me that the Vegetable Somasas and Pilau Rice (both marked as suitable for vegetarians only) were suitable for vegans.
...

That's very interesting. And I'm very interested to know how they respond to the question about whether all "not marked vegan" products are unsuitable for vegans.

Called them yesterday to ask them about something - I won't say what it is here for fear that it might identify the person I talked to.

Anyhow, I talked to a really nice bloke who was very...

Perhaps you should ask Karen about the vegetable samosas and the pilau rice. :)

I'm hoping that it's the other way round: that they were doing it, were caught out, and have now promised not to do it again without actually admitting that they ever were doing it.

But I'd be a...

My latest post to the Sainsburys forums:

Someone posted this:



I replied with:

I just called the Customer Care line and they read out the statement that was briefly posted on their forums:



So that does seem to be (hopefully) a correct and genuine statement of their...

It gets even more bizarre. The Vegan Society have just posted a news item about this:



So let me get this straight. Not only have Sainsbury's spent the last four days refusing to confirm...

There's another thread as well.

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/YOURIDEAS/forums/thread/4904.aspx

I just posted this to the new Sainsbury's thread:

I just got this statement passed on to me (by someone passing it on from someone else).



Oh, and one of those 25 calls today was my mum, who called them to point out that as the mother of a...

Someone else copied the full text of what they said on the now deleted thread. It was:



Of course, since that has now been deleted, there's no reason to suspect that this statement is correct -...

Correction.

The thread was there.

It now appears to have been deleted - the entire thread, along with their statement about labelling.

Which I guess means that we are now back in the...

On their own forums, Sainsburys now appear to be saying that it's not true. (Or perhaps it was, but they've now changed their minds and don't want to admit it)!

The thread is here:
...

What they mean is that they aren't engaged on some kind of crash project to immediately remove the suitable for "vegans and vegetarians" bit from existing packaging designs. Those designs will be...